This is a toon i got off of the web,but would like to modify and try on the 3t site.But could use some help,
I dont know alot about pm's or rdd's so im hopping that you guys could give me some advice on how to adjust
this toon to have it work well in the 3t enviroment.I already played a similar toon only to mistakenly not take matial
weapons,since i was playing an elf,i figured it just came with it,so to avoid anymore mixups im hopping that
you all could help me modify this for 3 t.


The only thing i do know that i should modify is instead of taking wf: rapier is to take someting else,
Since its a str based toon,not dex.And i found his bard songs didnt last very long and werent very powerful,so
somewhere in there lingering song would be nice....somehow.


Bard 10/Palemaster20/RDD 10 – Human
PvP or PvM
Playable 1-40

Str: 18 (36)
Int: 14 (16)
Dex: 10
Wis: 8
Con: 10 (12)
Cha: 12 (14)


1 Bard-1- Heavy Armor, Martial Weapon
2 Bard-2
3 Bard-3- WF: Rapier
4 Bard -4- Str 19
5 Bard 5 [Lore-8]
6 RDD-1 Power Attack
7 RDD-2 RDD Str 21
8 RDD-3 Str 22
9 RDD-4 RDD Str 24 Cleave
10 RDD-5
11 RDD-6
12 RDD-7 Str 25, RDD Con 12, Imp. Crit Rapier
13 RDD-8
14 Pale 1
15 Bard 6 Curse Song
16 Pale 2 Str 26
17 Bard 7
18 Pale 3 Great Cleave
19 Pale 4
20 Bard 8 Str 27
21 RDD-9 RDD Int 16 OverCrit
22 RDD-10 RDD Str 31, Cha 14
23 Pale 5
24 Pale-6 Str 32, Dev Crit
25 Pale-7
26 Pale-8
27 Bard 9 EWF
28 Pale-9 Str 33
29 Pale-10
30 Pale-11 Epic SF: Discipline
31 Pale-12
32 Pale 13 Str 34 Epic Energy Resistance (Any but Fire)
33 Pale-14 Armor Skin
34 Pale-15
35 Pale-16 ES: Epic Warding
36 Pale-17 Str 35, ES: Epic Mage Armor
37 Pale-18
38 Pale-19 ES: Greater Ruin
39 Pale-20 Epic Prowess (or ES: Hell Ball or ES: Dragon Knight)
40 Bard-10 Str 36

AC 47 (10 + 8 plate + 3 shield + 4 RDD + 12 PM + 8 TUM +2 ArmorSkin)

AB 41 (24 BA + 13 STR + 3 EWF + 1 Epic Prowess)

Saves: Fort 21 (29 v. spells); Ref: 19 (27 v. spells); Will: 25 (33 v. spells)

Skills (264):
Lore: 8
Discipline: 43
Listen: 43
Spellcraft: 37
Tumble: 40
Perform: 13
UMD: 43
Taunt: 43
Heal: 30
Open Lock: 2/1
Disable: 2/1



Palemaster Special Abilities & Feats
Level 1 Bone Skin
Level 2 Animate Dead
Level 3 Darkvision
Level 4 Summon Undead
Level 5 Deathless Vigor
Level 6 Undead Graft I
Level 7 Tough as Bone
Level 8 Undead Graft II
Level 9 Summon Greater Undead
Level 10 Deathless Master Touch
Deathless Mastery

RDD Special Abilities & Feats
Level 1 Draconic Armor
Hit Die Increase (d6)
Level 2 Draconic Abilities
Level 3 Dragon Breath
Level 4 Hit Die Increase (d8)
Level 6 Hit Die Increase (d10)
Level 9 Wings
Level 10 Half-Dragon - Darkvison
Immune to Fire, Paralysis, Sleep






Additional comments from the thread were as follows :

That looks better, but I'd still advise going with 16 STR and 14 CON (put the other 2 points into DEX). This is

basically a melee build and although you have a really good AC, your HPs are only in the vicinity of 340 if you max every

level. If you start with 14 CON, you'll at least have the potential for over 400 HPs. You only lose 1 AB and 1 damage.


Also his skill points dont add up right total comes to 304.

moved as on wrong forum.

dev crit is disabled on 3T

epic warding is nerfed so dont take it

dragon knight is useless so dont take it

if you go 20 bard / 10 pm / 10 rdd you can get lasting inspiration which makes your bard song last 10x as long. Look for gentleman jim's 20/10/10 build.

You can find Jim's Build here.

Armors add up to +7 shields up to +6 (but +5 is more common) amulet up to +7 natural, helmet/ring/cloak up to +7 deflection and boots up to +5 (+4 is more common). In addition to what you posted you can get +1 AC from buffing your dex.

Or if you want a high PM you could also go bard5/rdd10/pm25. 10th bard song (and curse) is pretty much useless, it doesnt even give any AC. Also EMA is nerfed at 3T, 25 PM would give you +4 to all 4 AC types, 20 would only give +3 (for full +5 you need at least 17 caster level (which is: wiz/sorc level + half PM level)), and 25 PM is another +2 boneskin AC and a bonus feat. Or could go bard14/rdd10/pm16, that'd give you a half-decent song. I just hate playing bards without lasting inspiration thou.

Like allready mentioned dev crit is disabled at 3T so pa, cleave, g cleave, over crit and dev are all more or less useless.

For rapier you'd need both martial and exotic prof, another 3t feature, same goes for scimmy.

Meh.